2004-04-09 [dani california 311]: why?

2004-04-09 [Blaze the Nameless]: Because it will be a way for me to make friends with them.

2004-04-09 [dani california 311]: why would you want to be friends with them?

2004-04-09 [Blaze the Nameless]: What does that mean?

2004-04-09 [dani california 311]: i was just asking

2004-04-09 [Blaze the Nameless]: Well I would like to be friends with them: answer to your question.

2004-04-09 [Leelo]: lol Everythings a-o-k here^^

2004-04-09 [dani california 311]: ok

2004-04-09 [Blaze the Nameless]: Okay............maybe I would become a reading. Some of those stories were distubring.

2004-04-09 [dani california 311]: yeah

2004-04-09 [Blaze the Nameless]: Maybe I'll do something else to become their friends.

2004-04-09 [Leelo]: yup yup^^

2004-04-09 [Blaze the Nameless]: I might have an idea.

2004-04-09 [dani california 311]: what?

2004-04-09 [Blaze the Nameless]: I'll send you a message. The walls have ears.

2004-04-09 [dani california 311]: yeah

2004-04-09 [Athene Noctua]: *raises eyebrow*

2004-04-09 [dani california 311]: nothing

2004-04-09 [Blaze the Nameless]: Well I just don't another 'thing' to break out agian.

2004-04-09 [dani california 311]: i just dont know what to do

2004-04-09 [Leelo]: Yeah, well, it'll be ok. This is what is going to happen no matter what we do

2004-04-09 [Blaze the Nameless]: Yeah, she's right

2004-04-09 [dani california 311]: she is right, she is very smart, you all r smart

2004-04-09 [Blaze the Nameless]: Thanks

2004-04-09 [dani california 311]: welcome,anytime

2004-04-09 [Blaze the Nameless]: BRB

2004-04-09 [Leelo]: So?, Uh? What we gonna do now?

2004-04-09 [Blaze the Nameless]: Ummmm..........if you all are bored I have something you can read.

2004-04-09 [dani california 311]: ok,sure

2004-04-09 [Blaze the Nameless]: Its called Dream Asylum

2004-04-09 [dani california 311]: ok

2004-04-09 [Blaze the Nameless]: Thanks for reading it.

2004-04-09 [dani california 311]: welcome, its cool

2004-04-09 [Blaze the Nameless]: *smiles*

2004-04-09 [mywolfalways]: I missed quite a bit while I was offline. [Blaze the Nameless] are you the owner of this page? If I could suggest that you make your points above the page a little more clear. When you mix together subjects in one paragraph it is not clear for whoever is reading it. 

2004-04-09 [Blaze the Nameless]: Okay. Good idea. What points should I make clearer?

2004-04-09 [mywolfalways]: Well, I'm messaging you about the whole thing. ^_^ I'll tell you in those.

2004-04-09 [Blaze the Nameless]: Okay.

2004-04-09 [Athene Noctua]: Well, at least the GLBT people don't privately message each other plotting against their enemies. :)

2004-04-09 [mywolfalways]: GLBT?

2004-04-09 [Athene Noctua]: Gay/Lesbian//Bisexual/Transgendered

2004-04-09 [mywolfalways]: Intriguing. :) I am in no way plotting anything. *chuckles* I message people all the time and I am never plotting...I don't think...hmm... LOL

2004-04-09 [Athene Noctua]: No, this was referring to some comments on the previous page, about a "plan" and that they will message privately about it because "walls have ears"

2004-04-09 [mywolfalways]: Aaah. *shrugs* I missed the whole outcry, I was offline.

2004-04-09 [Athene Noctua]: If it really interests you, I'm sure you can read them. *sigh* There is only so much you can do to teach people to be a little more open-minded and accepting of people, regardless of age, religion, beliefs, abilities, sexual orientation, and the like.

2004-04-09 [mywolfalways]: It's very true. Well, I confuse people when I try to talk about any of that stuff because I play "devil's advocate" and do it rather convincingly most of the time. LOL In any case, I've come to the conclusion that you really won't change anybody's mind. The most you can do is explain your perspective and let it go.

2004-04-09 [Athene Noctua]: Yeah, that is what I have done. *sigh* But about gay marriages (other than the sexual orientation part) - it seems that the government is becoming too controlling of our lives. Now it is trying to dictate who we may marry, love, have relationships with, and et cetera...

2004-04-09 [Athene Noctua]: That in itself is a horrifying thought. Brave New World, anyone?

2004-04-09 [mywolfalways]: The problem is that there are a lot of underlying conotations with the word "marriage". I think that if they used the word "civil union" or something, it wouldn't be such a big deal. There are a lot of people who are homosexual or bisexual simply to be different or for the attention. I do believe that most of the time you cannot help who you fall in love with though. Governmental and state powers have controlled everything for a long time. It's either them or the ruling church of the era.

2004-04-09 [Athene Noctua]: Them! :) The problem is that civil unions are separate and UNequal...

2004-04-09 [mywolfalways]: True. It's the whole connotation that goes along with "marriage" though that is the problem. That's just my observation. As long as you leave the m-word out, people don't freak out so much over it.

2004-04-09 [Athene Noctua]: Yeah, I have noticed that. Its because they know that civil union isn't the same, and that makes everything all better. :)

2004-04-09 [mywolfalways]: Yup. I don't think it would be such a problem either if we didn't have so many people who are just claiming to be bi or homosexual to double their chances of a date. (I've seen it and heard it).

2004-04-09 [Athene Noctua]: I honestly cannot imagine how people can pretend to have an alternate sexual preference. *ponders* I mean, you can't keep the facade up for an extended period of time.

2004-04-09 [mywolfalways]: *shrugs* I don't know, but they do it. It's usually pretty easy to spot the ones who are faking though. An easy way to catch a "poser" of almost any kind is when they bring up the stereotype that they are when it isn't even involved in the conversation.

2004-04-09 [Athene Noctua]: Yes...tis true. I have noticed that.

2004-04-09 [ravenna]: WHY IS IT WRONG TO BE A MALE PROSTITUTE AND NOT WRONG TO BE A FEMALE PROSTITUTE? SEXISM !!!

2004-04-09 [dani california 311]: i am back

2004-04-09 [Blaze the Nameless]: Okay I'm back

2004-04-09 [dani california 311]: i saw

2004-04-09 [Leelo]: It's wrong all way round, it's wrong to be a prostitute period

2004-04-09 [dani california 311]: yeah, i agree

2004-04-09 [Blaze the Nameless]: Same here. Selling you body is wrong. God gave you your body and when you abuse bad things happen.

2004-04-09 [dani california 311]: yeah

2004-04-09 [Blaze the Nameless]: I've got a question, for Passion and Bloody, how do all feel about the gay marriages.

2004-04-09 [dani california 311]: idc, if u want to be gay, u go ahead and be gay, it shuldnt effect me. i am straight

2004-04-09 [Blaze the Nameless]: Well I mean I feel that gay lovers who live togehter should have just about all the rights a married man and woman do.

2004-04-09 [dani california 311]: yeah,same here

2004-04-09 [Blaze the Nameless]: Couple people agree with me on that term. I mean they're still people.

2004-04-09 [dani california 311]: yeah

2004-04-09 [Blaze the Nameless]: Plus I think that if its a gay love then its okay but some people seem like its a trend. That makes me mad.

2004-04-09 [dani california 311]: i knw,its not

2004-04-09 [Blaze the Nameless]: Well thats what Madonna and Britteny want you to think.

2004-04-09 [dani california 311]: lol,yeah

2004-04-09 [Athene Noctua]: Well I mean I feel that gay lovers who live togehter should have just about all the rights a married man and woman do." Really? I wouldn't think so from what is on this page...

2004-04-09 [dani california 311]: yeah, why not

2004-04-09 [Athene Noctua]: Because this page calls all GLBT people sinners, and yet the owner says that gay lovers who live together should have the same rights as a married man and woman? Makes no sense whatsoever.

2004-04-09 [Leelo]: I'm th owner of the page, and I did not say anything like that. But there is one thing that we need to put on our page, and that is, that we're all sinners, but we are just saved by the grace of God.

2004-04-09 [Leelo]: Ok, they shouldn't have the same rights as straight married people, cuz it is not right. The bible specificly says so.

2004-04-09 [dani california 311]: ok

2004-04-09 [Blaze the Nameless]: Look [Athene Noctua]. I called them sinners yes but did I ever say they shouldn't be happy?

2004-04-09 [Athene Noctua]: Ahh, I got it now. Makes a bit more sense. :) *shakes head at [Leelo]*

2004-04-09 [dani california 311]: yeah

2004-04-09 [Blaze the Nameless]: So you get it now?

2004-04-09 [Athene Noctua]: Yep. :)

2004-04-09 [Blaze the Nameless]: Thats good.

2004-04-09 [Athene Noctua]: While you don't think GLBT people's lifestyles are acceptable according to your beliefs, you still believe they should have the same rights. :) That's very nice. Not like other people I know, who delegate GLBT people to subhuman status because of their sexual orientation.

2004-04-09 [Blaze the Nameless]: Well thats mean. I think some people think they're not human because their gay.

2004-04-09 [Athene Noctua]: LOL. DNA is DNA.

2004-04-09 [Blaze the Nameless]: Thats right. Thats why equalitay is something we lack today.

2004-04-09 [dani california 311]: yeah

2004-04-09 [Athene Noctua]: Well, we do agree on something. :)

2004-04-09 [dani california 311]: yeah

2004-04-09 [Blaze the Nameless]: Thats good.

2004-04-09 [dani california 311]: yeah,it is good. its about time too

2004-04-09 [Blaze the Nameless]: LOL! Well I must take my leave! Off 2 see Alegria!

2004-04-09 [dani california 311]: ok,have fun! bye

2004-04-09 [dani california 311]: hey [wind eagle]

2004-04-09 [hji]: ^_^ it is [hji]

2004-04-09 [Leelo]: Hey^^

2004-04-09 [dani california 311]: sorry,my bad

2004-04-09 [Leelo]: ^^'

2004-04-09 [dani california 311]: hey ya'll

2004-04-09 [hji]: no problem ^_^

2004-04-09 [dani california 311]: ok

2004-04-09 [Leelo]: Man I wish [Sharpline] Would get on here, he's signed up he just ain't here^^ and [Blaze the Nameless] is pout for a bit, so i guess it's just us. So what we gonna do, to add some stuff??

2004-04-09 [dani california 311]: idk and drc

2004-04-09 [Leelo]: I eant out not pout^^

2004-04-09 [Leelo]: meant*

2004-04-09 [hji]: what kind of stuff? drawings paintings? or something else? you call it ^_^

2004-04-09 [Leelo]: What is it with me and my misspelling today???

2004-04-09 [Leelo]: now what??

2004-04-09 [dani california 311]: idk, but it has happened a lot

2004-04-09 [dani california 311]: j/k

2004-04-09 [Leelo]: ok^^' Now what was you asking[WindEagel]???????

2004-04-09 [dani california 311]: what did u want to put up?

2004-04-09 [hji]: I could put up a painting about the story of daniel?

2004-04-09 [dani california 311]: who is he? the one with the lions?

2004-04-09 [hji]: yeah!! thats him! it's a painting about trust!

2004-04-09 [Leelo]: ?????????????? what lions? Huh?? He's a friend.

2004-04-09 [dani california 311]: cool, daniel and the lions painting

2004-04-09 [Leelo]: Oh yeagh just now got it I am out of it today, yeah he is the one who got thrown into the lions den^^*blushes with embarrsssment*

2004-04-09 [dani california 311]: yeah, i read that one

2004-04-09 [Leelo]: I am pathetic, that is why my mood says what it says^^

2004-04-09 [dani california 311]: lol,naaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

2004-04-09 [hji]: I could put that painting on and give a describtion of my feelings with that painting? if you like that?

2004-04-09 [Leelo]: hehehe, sorry about that one^^

2004-04-09 [dani california 311]: its ok, and sounds cool

2004-04-09 [Leelo]: Yeah do that^^ That would be great^^

2004-04-09 [dani california 311]: it sounds like a cool pic

2004-04-09 [Leelo]: Yes it does^^

2004-04-09 [dani california 311]: yeah

2004-04-09 [Leelo]: ok.........I think we are the one's just talking^^ lol

2004-04-09 [dani california 311]: yeah.lol

2004-04-09 [Leelo]: lol

2004-04-09 [dani california 311]: yeah

2004-04-09 [hji]: I will put it on! ^_^ but... I forgett the pasword? *shame*

2004-04-09 [Leelo]: I'll message you the password^^ Don't say what iot is on here^^

2004-04-09 [dani california 311]: yeah,bad move to

2004-04-09 [hji]: sorry! I will put it on now!! just have some min.

2004-04-09 [dani california 311]: ok

2004-04-09 [hji]: oepsie!! I think I did somthing wrong? HELP!!

2004-04-09 [dani california 311]: i love it!

2004-04-09 [hji]: is this better?

2004-04-09 [dani california 311]: yeah, u did it

2004-04-09 [hji]: but it isn't in the center of the page?

2004-04-09 [dani california 311]: yeah,so?

2004-04-09 [hji]: it was in the center! and now it isn't ^_^"

2004-04-09 [dani california 311]: what?

2004-04-09 [hji]: everything!! the picture the text

2004-04-09 [dani california 311]: your pic?

2004-04-09 [hji]: what about my paining??

2004-04-09 [dani california 311]: whats missing, i dont see anything missing

2004-04-09 [hji]: nothing is missing.. but the picture was standing in the center and I did something so.. it isn't annymore in the center!

2004-04-09 [dani california 311]: oh,no big, idt they will care

2004-04-09 [hji]: oke! ^_^

2004-04-09 [dani california 311]: ok

2004-04-09 [Leelo]: Yeah, it looks great^^

2004-04-09 [dani california 311]: yeah,thats what i said

2004-04-09 [hji]: really? I think it could be much better?

2004-04-09 [dani california 311]: naaaaaaah,its good

2004-04-09 [Leelo]: We'd tell you if it needed improvment^^

2004-04-09 [hji]: oke! thanks ^_^

2004-04-09 [dani california 311]: dont worry, we would

2004-04-09 [hji]: oke! I will be waithing..

2004-04-09 [dani california 311]: there is nothing to comment badly about it on

2004-04-09 [hji]: shure there is! look at it!! there is no structure in it.. (that do not mean I don't like it)

2004-04-09 [Leelo]: So, uh.......I forgot^^

2004-04-09 [dani california 311]: me too

2004-04-09 [hji]: forgot what??

2004-04-09 [dani california 311]: nvm, idk

2004-04-09 [hji]: ????

2004-04-09 [dani california 311]: idk

2004-04-09 [hji]: what does that mean?? idk?

2004-04-09 [Leelo]: Sorry i was going to say something but I forgot^^

2004-04-09 [dani california 311]: idk means i dont know

2004-04-09 [hji]: oke! and what does nvm means?

2004-04-09 [dani california 311]: nvm means never mind

2004-04-09 [hji]: alright! thanks.. I know that now ^_^

2004-04-09 [dani california 311]: ok

2004-04-10 [Blaze the Nameless]: WOW! I saw that picture and I'm like what hey! Itrs awesome! Thanks WE!

2004-04-10 [Leelo]: yup, yup^^

2004-04-10 [ravenna]: "Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor MALE prostitutes nor homosexual offenders" ......... See? It says nothing about female prostitutes. It's only wrong for men to be prostitues. sexism sexism sexism

2004-04-10 [dani california 311]: uhm.............

2004-04-10 [Leelo]: Look, it is wrong for everyone. Sin is sin. We will put up for guys and girls about this matter. So you won't have to feel that it is sexism or what ever

2004-04-10 [Blaze the Nameless]: [ravenna] its wrong either way wether you are male or female.

2004-04-10 [Leelo]: Yup yup^^

2004-04-10 [Blaze the Nameless]: Is [ravenna] even a memeber?

2004-04-10 [hji]: absolutly!! it doesn't matter if it's a male or a female it's all wrong!!

2004-04-10 [Blaze the Nameless]: Preach it WindEagle!

2004-04-10 [Leelo]: yup yup

2004-04-10 [hji]: Romans 15:1 We then that are strong ought to bear the infirmities of the weak, and not to please ourselves

2004-04-10 [Blaze the Nameless]: Oh! Thats a good verse!

2004-04-10 [Sharpline]: Hey, well I like the page, i think that you two did an exelent job at creating it. I will help with it any way i can. Allways here to help anybody who needs it. ~Sharpline

2004-04-10 [hji]: great! ^_^ nice to hear that!

2004-04-10 [dani california 311]: ok...............

2004-04-10 [ravenna]: AAHHHH! You are not understanding! The Bible is full of sexism. Why are you oblivious to it!! READ THE FREAKING VERSE. It doesn't matter if YOU think it's wrong either way, the Bible passage you posted says "male prostitutes" while "female prostitutes" is conspicuously left unmentioned.

2004-04-10 [dani california 311]: me? i believe in ogd, but i havent read all of the bible. just some parts

2004-04-10 [dani california 311]: i read some stories

2004-04-10 [Blaze the Nameless]: [ravenna], men usually ment all of us. Maybe this means all of us as well.